The point I meant to make in the OP is that these people demanded that her means of supporting herself was taken away from her. Your guarantee of freedom of speech provides no protection from the disapproval or censure of others. I certainly have different personae depending on the environment https://essaywriterforhire.com/social-issues-essay/
that I am in. Imagine if you made some crude joke or just some comment here on the forum that followed you into real life. I don’t see someone who has a crude sense of humor as being a horrible person.
Freedom is an abused word, with not practical purpose. This woman is not the first person, nor will she be the last, to say and do something objectionable to practically every decent person within 1000 miles and then claim the support of upright citizens proclaiming the virtues of ‘free speech’. She behaved in public in an offensive manner while she was in the area working for this organisation.Horrible? I don’t know.
But I’d like to see your input on the analogy and the questions I posed in post number 21. He is an absolute horror to deal with sometimes. Personally, I’d be on the phone shouting, begging, pleading to make sure they kept that awful person away from my child or brother or cousin. And we can all “imagine” what it would feel like if we had a disabled child or other relative in the care of this facility and possibly of this oblivious, insensitive woman. In reality, I’d probably be in the front office banging on the desk.
But this woman proudly proclaims her use of the word retard and that she likes “inappropriate jokes”. How likely is the average person to choose this charity to support over all the other claims on their generosity if the organisation’s reputation includes the fact that it hires and continues the employment of people who openly and explicitly oppose the values the organisation claims as its virtues? Me? I’d never have hired her in the first place. If I am at school or work, I am refined, avoid swearing, and avoid emotional reactions to things. That disable you from being able to have options/understanding, and actually to control your word (personal liberty).
How likely is the average person to choose this charity to support over all the other claims on their generosity if the organisation’s reputation includes the fact that it hires and continues the employment of people who openly and explicitly oppose the values the organisation claims as its virtues? Me? I’d never have hired her in the first place. I just think that demanding that someone be fired because they have a bad sense of humor and declaring them an awful person is over reacting. Nor http://student.gm.edu/ do I. When your employer relies on the goodwill of community donations and maybe government agencies to support its work, it also needs to maintain its credibility with the community that its work is carried out professionally and effectively.
I don’ feel like letting me beaten down again by drama queen raping the notion of freedom and liberty.POWER TO THE WORDS You are raped of your words. Now? It might be the first opportunity I’ve had to get rid of someone who’s clearly unfit to work in this industry. Even now my husband and I are living in assistant care takers of a 13 year old boy who is schizophrenic, bipolar, autistic, anxiety stricken, and about 4 other mental disorders that I can’t remember the names of. Someone with a bad sense of humor is not a horrible person. People need to grow thicker skins and stop getting all worked up over stuff as silly as a facebook joke. She cares neither for her own good name nor the impression she might make on the (families of) clients she supposedly cares for nor the reputation of the organisation she works for.
If I am dealing with people who I am close to, like family, I won’t hold back. and if I am dealing with strangers who’s opinions mean little to me, I may very well be quite crude to them if they say or do something to provoke such a reaction out of me. And we can all “imagine” what it would feel like if we had a disabled child or other relative in the care of this facility and possibly of this oblivious, insensitive woman. Originally Posted by adelady Nor do I. Originally Posted by adelady but rather to expose what had happened here when a bunch of over sensitive twits hounded her employer into firing her over a stupid picture. I do know that she’s unprofessional and irresponsible. Assuming that you didn’t mean the remark as it was taken and you issued an apology and clarification of what you intended. Originally Posted by adelady The point I meant to make in the OP is that these people demanded that her means of supporting herself was taken away from her.
I was thinking she seems to not be very mature. Being a crude comedian in off time does not mean they behave that way while on duty. Maybe you made a comment that was misconstrued into sounding like you supported vigilante killing of suspected criminals that had not yet faced trial. Originally Posted by adelady And we can all “imagine” what it would feel like if we had a disabled child or other relative in the care of this facility and possibly of this oblivious, insensitive woman. Your guarantee of freedom of speech provides no protection from the disapproval or censure of others.
I totally agree.I read the outrageous comment by kojak, who think this he can compare the situations of an Iraky(and his family) being tortured with the one of that stupid woman by the magic connection which is
There are times I wish he would just be taken by the state to alleviate her pain, but that, I know would hurt her more because SHE DOES love him. When your employer relies on the goodwill of community donations and maybe government agencies to support its work, it also needs to maintain its credibility with the community that its work is carried out professionally and effectively. People express pain in different ways. Would you still feel it is ok if you were disbarred for making the errant remark?No one is suggesting that one person’s free speech is more important than someone else’s. When camp was over for the summer he would drink himself silly and nearly kill himself by drinking and driving, but he never once mistreated a kid at camp and he only had praises from his superiors and they even testified to his good nature in court on his behalf. What is it that those that saw the picture had to go on? Perhaps you’re right and she should have been fired. Frankly I cannot use te r*** world, and it is ok (I don’t feel infringe uppon), mainly because it is a perfectly lazy or cunning or malign way to get credits from someone else suffering.
Everyone has far too many options for donating to hundreds of charities and non-profits. He can stretch is freedom of speach so far, because I was not in the neighborhood to punch him in the face, to remind him that there are still some people with other values, that are also ready to fight for other people rights (not just their own)Extend this debate into social/political is pointless. Imagine if you made some crude joke or just some comment here on the forum that followed you into real life. I can see humor in things that may disturb others, but I would never harm the elderly, infirmed, child or any other person intrusted to my care. Andrew Dice Clay is a pretty offensive comedian but I wouldn’t necessarily assume he would abuse me or anyone else while working in any facility.
The councelor job was all that kept him sober and it was good for him. Put it all together, that’s enough for a sacking in my book. She behaved in public in an offensive manner while she was in the area working for this organisation. Aren’t you assuming quite a lot, here?If you’re avoiding my posts because I’m a difficult character, I understand.
That silent molestation of peoples freedom is very common, done by media, schools. Personally, I’d be on the phone shouting, begging, pleading to make sure they kept that awful person away from my child or brother or cousin. The consensus here is clearely that this particular event is not even being close of free speach infringement.
Are we really that emotional that we freak out over the slightest of things? In reality, I’d probably be in the front office banging on the desk. But no matter what she says about him, we know she loves him simply because she still has him here. Imagine if you made some crude joke or just some comment here on the forum that followed you into real life. In reality, I’d probably be in the front office banging on the desk. Valid. To label them as awful people simply because you don’t like their humor is just over reacting.I agree, I was in error to say it was an infringement on freedom of speech (legally speaking), but to make a precident that having a bad sense of humor in your off duty time, (someone claimed it was a company trip but I was unable to find any confirmation of that claim) is justification to get someone fired from their job is ridiculous in my opinion. She has given her life to the child that her own son and daughter in law basically didn’t want. If I had any money, I might even threaten to sue.
The point I meant to make in the OP is that these people demanded that her means of supporting herself was taken away from her. I knew a guy that was a raging alcoholic by night and a camp councelor by day. When he is gone, his grandmother vents to us calling him all sorts of names because he is viciously abusive to her. But this woman proudly proclaims her use of the word retard and that she likes “inappropriate jokes”. Now?
It might be the first opportunity I’ve had to get rid of someone who’s clearly unfit to work in this industry. If I had any money, I might even threaten to sue. I do know that she’s unprofessional and irresponsible. But does this demonstrate that over-all, she is irresponsible in her employment?What bothered me was the public pressure given to the employer. Everyone has far too many options for donating to hundreds of charities and non-profits.
I can tell some pretty crude jokes myself. If I had any money, I might even threaten to sue. Originally Posted by adelady Horrible? I don’t know.